In this installment of the Schmidt List, host Kurt Schmidt sits down with leadership expert Dave Pygon to dissect the role of self-awareness in ineffective leadership.

Pygon, the mind behind Pygon One Consulting and author of “16 Principles and Strategies to Optimize Your Day,” delves into the need for leaders to be aware of their values and the impacts of their leadership styles on their teams.

A critical theme of the episode is the need for clarity in setting expectations for team performance while moving away from the glorification of ‘busyness.’ Pygon champions a shift towards discussing positive, productive aspects of daily life, noting that negative talk can be demotivating and unhelpful.

The conversation turns to the pitfalls of micromanagement, pushing for a culture that empowers individuals rather than fostering dependency. Pygon encourages the practice of regular self-improvement through coaching and mentoring to enhance leadership skills like communication and mental resilience.

Kurt and Dave concur on the essentiality of adapting and staying open to change rather than remaining tethered to familiar, old-fashioned methods of operation. Pygon suggests that facing challenges with a positive outlook and communicating effectively can dramatically improve professional and personal outcomes.

Illustrating his book’s principles, Pygon advises avoiding micromanagement by entrusting teams with tools and autonomy. He shares anecdotes that further demonstrate the positive impact of communication in both business and personal spheres.

Most of the episode discusses the importance of prioritizing and effectively managing time. Pygon shares his strategies for fitting high-priority tasks into busy schedules, emphasizing the need to compete with time to achieve better outcomes.

Listeners interested in Pygon’s insights on leadership and productivity can find more information on his website,, and his book on Amazon.

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